Jeep Renegade 25mm (1") Wheel Spacers Installation Write-Up

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  1. Bob Matutat

    Bob Matutat New Member

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    Wayalife and everybody: Jeep newbie here, in northern California. I expect to get my Trailhawk delivered in about 4 weeks. While I don't expect to do many mods on it, I am very interested in adding the 25mm spacers (keeping the stock wheels and tires), but ONLY if, in addition to improving the appearance, they improve and/or do not degrade the safety of the vehicle. I like that the wider stance can improve stability. So, hopefully, I can get these questions answered here:

    Assuming I install and maintain good-quality spacers properly,
    1) Am I voiding any warrantees or standard service agreements? (I know that partially depends on my local dealer.)
    2) I know the TH is lifted about 1 inch higher than other models, but because the spacers put the tires closer to the fenders above them, is there a greater risk of the tires rubbing the fenders, perhaps in some dirt road situations? (I won't be doing any rock-climbing with the TH, but there are plenty of dirt trails in the Sierras and surrounding foothills.)
    3) Will the turning radius be affected?
    4) What else should I be thinking about before starting this project?
     
  2. wayoflife

    wayoflife Administrator Staff Member

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    If you're planning on keeping your factory size tires, I would NOT run spacers if only because you'll be hard pressed to find any tire shops to work on your Renegade. Also, pushing your wheels out further will cause things like your bearings and joints to wear out prematurely. For me, it's not that big of a deal and really, just a part of modding a Jeep but something you need to be aware of.
     
  3. Dave

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    I keep hearing that the sandwich type spacers that one might get from Madness Autoworks or Renegade Ready at not as safe . Even though they are hub concentric and come with longer lug bolts.What makes them less safe?What are the failures that can happen?
     

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    The spacers you show in the image look better than what I have seen in the past. As you have mentioned, these do come with longer bolt AND they come with additional bolts that secure the spacer to the axle. Without the later, I personally would be concerned as movement in the spacer will result in the eventual failure of the lug bolts. Being hub centric will mean nothing for safety - they simply position the wheel better.
     
  5. Dave

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    Thanks for the info
    I have the 17mm spacers on.So the lug bolts being 5/8" longer shouldn't be an issue for failure .Only one flat head cap screw holds the spacer to the axle to keep it in position and from rotating
     
  6. wayoflife

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    I wouldn't say that. Just because they're longer doesn't mean that they can't break. They shouldn't but for me personally, the one flat head cap screw would concern me. But, that's just me.
     
  7. Dave

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    I don't see how the spacers can move being that the lug bolts pass through the wheel and spacers into the original taped holes and center hub will keep it central.The lug bolts themselves will keep the spacers from moving as long as you maintain the proper torque.Just like you have to do with the other type of spacers.But you don't have to remove the wheel to check the torque.
    If it's bolts that eventually fail ,On the other type spacers you have twice the amount of bolts for failure.
    So I guess it's push against shove on all types of spacers
     
  8. wayoflife

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    LOL!! Just sharing what I've seen in my years of playing with Wranglers. Spacers that bolt up to the axle and then the wheels to it have ALWAYS held up especially if they're made by a quality manufacturer here in the USA. Spacers that simply get sandwiched between the wheel and axle even with longer studs allow for too much stress on the studs/bolts and if you play hard enough, they will break. Of course, that's just what I've seen. You can believe whatever it is you want to believe. :)
     
  9. Dave

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    Alright ...finally...that's the answer I been looking for.Ive been looking all over the internet for the why ... But with no answers!!
    Thanks again
     
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  10. JustinBalboa

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    Whats the recommended company for safe spacers?
     
  11. paul

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    anyone know whether 16" steel rims off a renegade sport have the same cavities as the 17" TH rims?
     
  12. QuinnGTL

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    I would also like to know this.. I'm getting a limited but want to get the 16" aluminum rims so I can get some more aggressive off road tires, 18" rims will be kept for on road tires and or winter tires.

    Swapping tires is easy and having road/ offroad/ and winter tires just means you'll be using those tires just for that purpose and extending the life of all of the tires. Although it means having 3 sets of tires and rims for 1 car... but I'm sure I'm not the only person who does this right?
     
  13. FireHawk

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    Depends on the area where you live, most people don't have a dedicated set of winter wheels/tires unless they get a lot of snow where they are. But yes, I could see many people having a set of dedicated offroad wheels/tires.
     
  14. QuinnGTL

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    I live up north and we get brutal wingers.
     
  15. angus!

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    Great write up, Thank you for the detail pics, I feel confident I can do this. which brand spacers did you use?
     
  16. MyTruck-let

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    @wayoflife - your explanation is GOLD! A sincere thank you for sharing your wisdom and pragmatic perspective on the subject.

    With consideration for your explanation, it now makes complete sense (to me) that spacers which bolt to the axel and wheels which bolt to the spacer, have proven to be a reliable configuration.

    @wayoflife - One question - you mentioned that tire stores may be less inclined to work on a vehicle with spacers. Would that be due to potential liabilities? If so, what are they concerned about that 'we' should be aware of if installing spacers on our own?

    @all - Additionally, do spacers void the tire warranty or do AT tire warranties take into consideration typical vehicle mods for off-roading?

    Any info ya'll can share would be most appreciated.

    Thanks for being a part of the community!
     
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    ImageUploadedByToasterJeep1475346290.806078.jpg are these spacers you used?
     
  18. Tumbleweed

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    Those look like nice spacers except for the lack of hub centric feature.
     
  19. John Eldridge

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    Renegade Ready.com sells nice 1 inch wheel spacers I have them on my sport. Yhey cost a little more but they are great quality. They bolt on with one bolt and come with extended lug bolts. Vey easy to install and the guy at renegade ready.com is very helpful.
     
  20. Bucky

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    So basically we should all get the 1.25" stud, no matter what rim we have?
     

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