I finally got some parts in...

Discussion in 'Renegade Modified Tech' started by IDoMy0wnRacing, Jul 25, 2019.

  1. djthumper

    djthumper Member

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    Did you have the full size spare tire well to put the rear bumper on? If so did you have to change it out?
     
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    No problem. your renegade is b*tchin' man!
     
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  3. IDoMy0wnRacing

    IDoMy0wnRacing Well-Known Member

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    I'm sorry, I am not 100% sure what you are asking.

    The (my) Trailhawk comes/came with a full size spare.

    Which was actually on the bumper before I got the new wheels and tires. :)

    before, and After.
     

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    I have been told that stock there are different spare tire wells. Someplace I came across said that in order to have the tow hitch bumper that you cannot have the full sized spare. Did your originally have a full sized spare? If so did you have to modify the spare tie well to put the Avid bumper on with the hitch?
     
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    Don't know for sure if that's true or not, but my Trailhawk came with the full size spare, And I added a factory trailer hitch, so I don't think they are mutually exclusive..
     
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    Thanks, that is some information I wanted to know. I definitely want to put a hitch on the jeep.
     
  7. IDoMy0wnRacing

    IDoMy0wnRacing Well-Known Member

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    Nope, it came with a full size spare. ALL of the Renegades models come with a full size spare tire well.

    No modifications necessary to the spare tire well for the AVID bumper to fit.

    If you have a tow package on your Renegade and you want to install an AVID Bumper. The original/stock tow receiver has to be removed.
    The AVID rear bumper come with it's own tow receiver.

    It isn't the spare tire well that has to be modified, it is the stock tow receiver that has to be removed.

    It was a relatively easy install with a good set of instruction.

    There is a small piece of the body that has to be cut off for the bumper to fit, circled in yellow-ish in the picture. But nothing major.
    I didn't take a before picture, but this is the end result. Nothing to the tire well, and easy to get to.
     

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    How did you do the relocation for the camera? Any photos/ steps for doing so? thanks and great build
     
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    IDoMy0wnRacing Well-Known Member

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    The AVID rear bumper with spare tire carrier comes with a camera relocation harness (can be seen here).
    Pretty straight forward.
    Remove the lift gate panel;
    Remove the camera, and plug the hole;
    Run the relocation cable through the right side of the Renegade and out of the bottom of the rear light assembly mount;
    Drill a hole in the bumper, connect the camera to the harness and bolt the camera in to place.

    I later relocated the camera so that it is mounted just above the hitch receiver to the right.
    The view from the camera was better there.
     
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    I have a 2020 Jeep renegade and I want to do the Avid 2.5" lift with front and rear Radius bumpers. I see from this post that you said there was a small amount of cutting for the rear, did you happen to take any pictures of the front?
     
  11. IDoMy0wnRacing

    IDoMy0wnRacing Well-Known Member

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    W E L C O M E ! ! ! ... to the forum.

    Only what I have already posted.
    What I can tell you is if/when you do the front bumper, take your time. Measure a few times and cut a few more (a little bit at a time).
    With the grill/upper cover still installed, make some measurement so that there is a straight line from below the grill around the side horizonal to the ground. once the line (I marked mine with masking tape) is straight, remove the grill assembly. With the grill assembly removed begin your cut, but cut below the line and test fit. I wanted too much material so that I could trim until I had the fit and spacing that I wanted.

    I put the bumper in place without tightening it completely and kept test fitting the grill assembly repeatedly and kept taking off a little bit more until it fit as designed.

    If you cut too much off the first time, you will have a poor look or be replacing the grill just to have to cut it again.

    If you look closely at the second pic, you can see the that the area that is being trimmed is sticking out so that I can make sure that I am not cutting off too much.

    I did this process 5 or 6 times until I git it just right.
     

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  12. jrstephe

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    Did ATP have their 4" lift kit when you were shopping? I had my local 4WheelParts store order one but he's not had any luck getting answers as to when he can expect it. After reading a few posts on here I was kind of second guessing the decision to go with ATP and instead get the AVID 2.5" lift. And now after reading your post about the ATP springs I'm reconsidering my initial order. I want the AVID Radius bumpers to get all the clearance I can but they're out of stock on all 3 items (lift & bumpers) with no idea when they'll get new stock. Seems that I have time to make a decision. The ATP 4" lift is $899 and the springs alone are $569. The AVID 2.5" lift is $499. I'm wondering if the $1069 to purchase the ATPsprings and AVID lift are worth the additional $270 vs just going with the ATP lift that has it all????Decisions, decisions....
     
  13. IDoMy0wnRacing

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    I ordered the ATP 4.0 lift kit. After 4 months of waiting I ordered the AVID 2.5 inch kit. Ironically, both kits cane in days apart. I liked the looks of the AVID 2.5 and the Red Springs of the ATP kit, and that is what I used. AVID 2.5 and ATP Red Springs.

    It is going to be a matter of preference for you and how much you are willing to spend.

    The Avid 2.5 would probably give you all the lift that you are looking for.
    I had the Trailhawk, with the Trailhawk having .8 inch lift over other Renegades, the 2.5 lift kit and the 2 inch springs was the only way of achieving a full 4 inch lift on a Trailhawk.

    If you are good with gray springs, Eibach makes the springs for ATP. ATP specification for the springs include the Red Powder Coat. The Eibach spring are probably more available. 1.7 inch lift in the front and 1.1 inches in the rear will level the ride and give you 2 inches of lift.

    Eibach Pro-Kit Lift Springs E30-51-018-01-22 at SummitRacing for 306.00, parts in stock.
     
  14. jrstephe

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    I like the looks of the red springs better myself, kind of goes with the Trailhawk trim. According to Avid if you put their bumpers on you can put 31” tires under without rubbing. I’ve ordered some Raceline wheels and BFG 265/65 /17’s which are supposed to be 30.6” tall and 10.4 wide. I’m hoping they will work but I’ve got to get those bumpers in first. What height and width are you running?
     
  15. IDoMy0wnRacing

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    They are not going to fit.

    245/65R17 BFG KO2 are 29.5 and with a 4.o inch lift, heavy fender well modifications and a 1 inch spacers in the front I would still get a little tire scuff on the fender liner at 3/4 turn and hitting a speed bump.

    29.5 is about as big as yo can go reliably.
    I went with the MR701 & BFG T/A KO2s (can be seen here).

    The back spacing/offset will dictate what size wheel spacers you will need for the front. I went with 1.5 in the rear, and 1.0 in the front and my wheels measure out at 17X7.5 +30mm offset.
     
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    I would have thought these were larger than I had ordered. What’s your guess?
     

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    There is a write up someplace about their cover picture.

    The tires are too large and they do not have the fender liners installed and it rubs a lot.
    Their Renegade is unusable but makes for a great photo with those wheel and tires on it.
     
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    Any regrets with the AVID rear bumper? I think it really changes the look but not sure if I want the hassle of having to open it every time I need in the back. So far I've used my cargo area quite a bit.
     
  19. IDoMy0wnRacing

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    I have to get into the rear of my Renegade (past tense) at least 2 times a day (I have to get ready for work and carry my gear in the back of the Jeep), I don't have any issue having to move the spare tire carrier out of the way. The latch that is on the kit makes moving the spare tire and opening the rear gate effortless. No regrets.

    The biggest hassle was mounting the camera so that it was usable.
     
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    So I followed the link you sent me for the Eibach springs and went to Summit's website. When I checked fit they only go up to 2018, I have a 2020. I'm wondering if they will fit or if there was some sort of change in the '19 & '20 models???
     

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