2016 Falken HT stock tires

I'm leaning towards the Yokohama too. I love the look of the KO2s but having had modded many vehicles over the years I'm hoping to not do quite as many mods that I won't get full use out of. I only offroad maybe 10-15% of the time and I'm not hard core with it because this is my daily driver. Nothing against the KO2s at all though.

 

I had the Geolanders installed the other day (225/65/17). They fit fine, no rubbing or anything like that. I had them installed off-site, but spoke to a dealer mechanic who said something like that wouldn't void the warranty, but I got the impression that it's up to the dealer.

The one thing that I'm not happy with is the significant decrease in mpg, to the point where I'm considering switching back as the majority of my miles are highway. I was averaging a combined 23 and am down to 18/19. Not sure if it's worth it to pay to look cool for the time being as I don't anticipate regularly going off road until next spring.

I'd be happy if anyone could comment on the stock Falken WildPeak H/T's ability to be used for light off roading. It seems to have an aggressive enough tread for a highway tire that you could get away with it on light trails.

 

Are you driving a Trailhawk? What Geolander - A/T-S, G015? I have a Latitude and was wondering if the Geolanders would fit without rubbing. The Trailhawk is about 1 inch higher than the Latitude.

 

Yes I have a Trailhawk, and yes, G015



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Are you making your mileage calculations based on the actual tire size? In other words manually

 

I lost maybe 1-2 mpg going from the Falken Wildpeak H/T to the Geolander GO15 A/T on my Trailhawk. I hardly noticed, used to get 30-31 going to work now I get 29-30.

 

Hmmm I'm already only getting 21/22 mpg...less than that would suck

 

With a roof rack and the G015's i was getting about 26 mpg yesterday when I took about a 100mi trip yesterday. 75/25 hwy/city driving. I've had the TH about a month and a half and with mostly city driving I was getting about 20 or so before I switched tires and added the rack.

 

I wish I had seen this thread sooner. I've been trying to straighten this same tire issue out myself.
I've been dealing with chrysler group customer assistance and they are just dismissive about it. Even after sending them proof I'm told that it has the correct tires. No explanation.
I went to the dealership today so hopefully they'll go to bat for me.

 

Check out this information from the Falken Tire Website...


Here is the link as well: http://www.falkentire.com/news-events/2012/02/falken-tire-wildpeak-h-t-designed-for-pickups-and-suvs

I am not impressed with the Customer Service of Jeep. All the representatives want to do is give me the run around and avoid taking any credit for being wrong in equipping a Highway Terrain / Highway Tread tire in the place of an All-Terrain in which my build sheet indicates I have equipped.
I will let you know if I am successful at getting "Jeep" to purchase and install the build sheet correct type of tire.

 

Please take a look at Falken's Website here...
http://www.falkentire.com/news-events/2012/02/falken-tire-wildpeak-h-t-designed-for-pickups-and-suvs

 

On/Off Road tires does not indicate that a lesser tire such as an All-Season tire is up the the task of an On/Off road tire. A lot of All-Terrain are typically All-Season but not the reverse.

 

I can provide some insight in to how the stock Falken H/T tires on the TH perform...I have attached a few photos of the Hungry Valley Off Road Training course out here in CA.

On each photo I have marked where I drove my TH with the stock H/T tires.

1) The TH climbed all three routes (A, B, C)
2) It performed the worst on the route marked with the letter 'A'.

What do I mean by that? It spin out requiring me to get enough speed to summit.

On route B, I used the uneven terrain to help with traction.

Route C required different driving techniques.

Being a novice, I haven't much experience from which to draw comparisons, but it didn't take a veteran wheeler to be woefully underwhelmed when my first run of the day was route A and I had to back down and make another approach because I could not get traction.

I haven't approached Jeep about the 'issue.' Mainly because the upgrade path I established prioritized differently. Also, it feels incredibly wasteful to purchase new tires when there is no immediate need. I may reevaluate.

EDIT - route C is mislabeled in the photo where 3 vehicles can be seen. I did NOT try the route C indicated in that photo.

 

Checked out my window sticker and tires, got the manager at my dealership to contact Jeep and the ball is rolling for a new set for me!!!!

 

I'm glad I found this thread. I live three miles off the pavement on a graded road and just knew I would be needing new tires within the year if I kept the Wranglers. I had already priced the KO2s and was getting ready to order them. After seeing this I popped into the dealer who had never heard of the issue. My sales Rep caught me in the parking lot and wished me luck but was doubtful. The service manager really did dig into it though - they are installing my tires right now.

 

Bsw AS on/off road tires? Not sure if that means i got what I'm supposed to have. My th came with falcons h/t.

 

Glad I found this thread. I bought my renegade back in June and just now (January) found this thread. Talking to jeep right now about the false advertising (if you throw that word around things move a little faster cause they can get in trouble) and they are referring me to their jeep wave department. Hopefully I can get new tires put on since I was in the market for new "beefier" tires anyways.


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So here's and update to what they responded with when I brought up the fact I had the wrong tires on my renegade trail hawk edition.

I do apologize for the current situation and cause for confusion. FCA did not put the wrong tires on the vehicle FCA changed the brand used on the Renegade Trailhawk models at factory. FCA US LLC reserves the right to discontinue models at any time or change specifications and pricing without notice or without incurring obligations.

Seems like they wanna just spout stuff off to make me not press the issue more. They don't know me too well haha.


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First-timer here. Thanks everyone for posting such helpful info.

Found this thread because I'm planning my first big off-roading trip with my 2016 Trailhawk next week, and it occurred to me that my tires looked a little...skimpy. Lo and behold, they're Wildpeak H/Ts and my window sticker clearly lists 'all terrain tire'.

I opened a ticket with Jeep Wave earlier this week, sent a scan of the window sticker, and got the same boilerplate legalese response that Omega Red got above. I called back and said that while they have the right to change specifications, they also need to change the window sticker because I have a right to expect that the standard equipment listed is accurate.

The phone rep I got was very nice and admitted that they've even been kept in the dark somewhat on this issue. She said that the engineers are claiming that the Wildpeak H/T is a more capable trail tire than the all terrain they had initially planned to use, and that they had done trail testing with it. This made me feel a little better, I'm slightly less worried that I'm not gonna blow a tire next week. But I did tell her that nothing on the Falken site indicated that the tire was suitable for off-road use.

I also mentioned that I had seen reports online of other owners who received a $150 credit per tire for this issue. She said she hadn't heard of that, but she reopened my case and added a note asking the case manager to look into it. If I succeed, I'll post my case number here so future owners might have more leverage.

She suggested I get in touch with the dealership also, she thought they might be more inclined to help me since I'm their direct customer. My dealer is in BFE, so I'll probably wait and see how this appeal goes before I try that route. I'd rather have them replaced locally than take a road trip.

So I feel slightly better about the capability of the tires after talking with Jeep Wave. But I'd still rather have tires that are ACTUALLY listed as all-terrain. If I have no luck, I may just buy some ATs and sell the Wildpeaks, tires go like hotcakes on Craigslist around here. Torn between the Yokos (sensible choice) and the K02s (beefy, cooler looking choice).

On a side note, doesn't this almost seem like a safety issue too? We were all lucky enough to notice, but how many owners are out there going bananas with their off-roading because they're riding on 'all terrains'? Maybe Jeep really does have faith in the Wildpeaks, since it seems like it'd only take one rollover to turn into a recall/lawsuit bonanza.

Happy Friday!

 

Well, I do agree that the product should definitely match the sticker but that being said as an owner of a '15 TH with Goodyear Wranglers on it they are really only a light truck tire like the Falken. THAT being said... it is truly amazing what you can accomplish with those stock tires and the 4x4 system in the Trailhawk maximizes capability and protects the tire at the same time. I've been through all kinds of rocky trails and washes and because your wheels don't spin you don't dig yourself into a hole and you are way less likely to get cuts in your tires. THAT BEING SAID... I'm picking it my next set of tires already though I've got plenty of good life in the ones I've got.

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