235/60/r17 on stock TH

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  1. Kevin Gaare

    Kevin Gaare Active Member

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    I've heard 235/65/r17 will rub a little bit on a stock TH. Does anyone know if 235/60/17 will fit without rubbing?


    Thinking about buying some KMC Rockstar wheels in 17x8 with 10 offset, with this size of rubber. I think that would look pretty nice, widening the tires and stance out without getting any closer to the strut and no need for spacers. I see a few guys get 35 offset rims, but then add spacers. I would prefer not to use spacers.
     
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    I agree about spacers, I have been looking at the RS3 wheels which in our pattern are available in +35 or +20. Thinking about the +20 if they will fit the 225 KO2 and be far enough from the strut maybe wider.
     
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    What size are the rims? If 17x8 with 20 offset, it would be 4.1mm closer to the strut.
     
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    Yes 17x8, so I would need a small spacer......hmm

    This is the size chart, the ones with a yellow square are the recommended wheels that come up on their configurator at +35.

    Was I picturing the backspacing differently? Or maybe I don't know the stock BS. Is your 4.1mm from the strut the wheel or the tire?

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    It's from the rim. Check out willtheyfit.com. I'm pretty sure B/S is the same thing just measuring in a different method, so I disregard B/S and just go with offset.

    I was also assuming you have the 17x6.5 35offset stock rims. That's what my DH has.

    I didn't even find those model of rims when I searched for what would fit .. So I started looking for the backspacing I wanted (I was shooting for 10-15) which were available in blanks, then just get them custom drilled to 5x110.

    I think the 17x8 with 235/60 might fit, you'll have to measure the clearance you have between your tire and strut. 17x8 rims with 225/65 tire would be further away from the strut, but might rub on the pinch seam.
     
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    I have a 2017 TH with 17's, only looking to run 225/65 17 unless a real suspension system comes out. If not I will do a spacer lift down the road.

    Thank you for that site, very cool.

    Looks like that would work quite well
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    I have an offroad toy so the renny will be for transport and a little fun
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    This one was posted on Renegade forums but I have not had a reply as to if spacers were used, which offset or anything yet, this is why I looked them up. With the different options of the rings and add ons I was thinking a single wide ring painted the anvil body color would be nice.
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    is that an app your using or website.. ?

    Sent from my SM-G955U using ToasterJeep mobile app
     
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    The website that Kevin posted above willtheyfit.com
     
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    Here is how the test set fits, time to order the rest as I am happy with fitment. IMG_20170725_171933.jpg IMG_20170725_171944.jpg IMG_20170725_172531.jpg IMG_20170725_172540.jpg IMG_20170725_171933.jpg IMG_20170725_171944.jpg
     
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    Correct, at full steering lock and hard braking there is a slight rub. Could reshape the plastic without even doing the full pinch seam mod I believe. Thank you! I am happy, 4 more on the way with hubcentric rings and new lug bolts. These wheels are a little thicker than the stock alloys
     
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    When I have the funds, I'm gunna go with this setup as well. What are the hubcentric rings? I've heard of the hubcentric wheel spacers, but not rings. Do you need new lugs, or are you just going to try to get black ones or somethin?

    Is there any chance you could weigh the stock wheel&tire and the new wheel&tire? I know the BFG's are like 10 pounds heavier than the stock tire. Rim could be another factor there. I don't wanna get too heavy where it starts to be too much for the little 4 banger to spin em.
     
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    Factory wheels are heavy. Most cases aftermarkets are always lighter. Factory GYs are 28 lbs, BFGs are 40lbs. I dislike rockstars due to the added plastic thingies and not being a true cut (hence the large lug covers and dual lug holes) but I'm never gonna buy them!! That's why he needs hubcentric rings @Kevin Gaare

    I've had my KO2s on for about 12k now, and it's a noticeable difference from stock, to the Yokohama ATS I had for about 10k to the KO2s. I've got rock rails, and it's about 21.9ish. I don't get to Hwy much, but I was getting 23.8 the other weekend on a little trip to the beach.
     
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    The hub ID of these wheels are 72.6mm and the hub of the Renny is 65.1mm so I need a ring to take up the slack in between so the wheels are centered.

    I have to measure the actual difference but the new wheels hub looks to be thicker by a couple mm so I ordered lug bolts that are longer, and black.

    I will post what the factory wheel setup and the new setup weighs each as soon as I can weigh them. The KMC wheel if definitely a heavy wheel.
     
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    Yes I dislike the wheel center on the rockstar wheels too but it is about the only wheel I could find that was close to passable, all the wheels I like are not able to fit the renny. I am going to try to adapt a different center cap or something depending on how they look once all mounted.

    I need hub rings because the bore of the wheel is larger than the diameter of the renny hub.

    I am getting 21mpg now due to the hills around me, wind all the time in the desert here and I have a heavy foot hehe. We shall see once the wheels are on.
     
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    The factory alloy with 215/65/17 Falken wildpeak are 54lbs the 17x8 rockstar with 225/65/17 KO2 is 70.2lbs
     
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    That's quite a difference in weight.. Maybe I'll just keep the little stock rims, put em on 1 inch spacers, find lower profile lugs that will allow the spare wheel on with the spacers, and go with a 225/65/17 Yoko Geolandar AT. Those tires only weigh 30lbs. That setup won't look nearly as cool, but it'll be cheaper and close within the factory specs.

    Jason, were the Yoko ATS you were running the Geolandars? Why did you change em out after only 10k?

    I do mostly highway driving and there's no rocky offroading around southern MN so really the KO2's are just a cooler looking tire. I won't be fully utilizing the KO2's off road like they're made to do but, we do get a lot of snow and the KO2's are pretty damn good in the snow. Had 33 inch KO2's on my old rubicon. I miss that thing... couldn't get stuck if I tried.

    Then again, I just need to keep reminding myself how horrible the rubicon was to drive on my highway commute.
     
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    Replaced simply because I deal tires. And I wanted the off-road grip over the ride quality in the end. Yokohama ATS G012 back then. I still have them, gonna swap them back on and sell my KO2s (and buy another set in Nov) to another TH in our TX group

    The Yokohama hands down has the best on road feel for an all terrain. I loved the wet weather traction the most, but off-road, next to a KO2, I was slipping while they were chugging along.
     
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    Nice, too bad we're so far away from eachother or I'd be interested in buying tires from ya!

    Good to hear about the Yoko ATS. I think that's what I'll go with, as I said before I do mostly highway driving. But would like something that's more capable for light off roading and more aggressive looking than highway tires.
     

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