My son lives on the mountain and knows a lot about the area. I just finished installing the rock sliders and we decided to go explore some places he couldn't go in his daily driver WJ. We spent the day working our way down the fire roads from 7 k elevation just after a week of rain. Needless to say go to use my winch. The skid plates and sliders paid for themselves. Even have bonus footage of me bein dumb in the mud. Love my Renegade after this weekend.