Renegade Performance Chip?

https://www.amazon.com/Innovative-P...eep:renegade&keywords=jeep+trailhawk+renegade

how does this work? any good?

 

Never heard of it. For some reason I find it a little iffy that it works for either motor.

 

Snake oil, don't waste your money. Anything that is spliced into two wires like that is usually nothing more than a couple resistors trying to alter voltage in an uncontrolled manner and more likely to cause your vehicle problems. Promises of +35 hp are pure bullshit.

The only ways to actually control the tune and engine performance are either with programmers that can update the non-ROM portions of the ECU, a piggy-back controller, or a full standalone engine management system. This is none of those. The closest I've seen is what Madness offers, and I'm still not fully convinced that their product is safe or effective because they're very limited with the details or dyno charts they will publish on their site.



But if you decide you want to try it out, make sure to add this, for maximum gains. ;-)

 

I wonder what would happen if Cobb got their hands on a renegade...

 

if you have the 1.4, look into the madness ecu. i have it and love it!!!

 

I do have the 1.4. I never put serious thought into that ecu. How is it?

 

Takes 5 min to install, Quick to setup. It really makes a difference. I also have the GFB diverter valve and the Go pedal but the pedal may get returned. Its cool but dont really need it

 

I got dupped into that innovative performance thingy. Been on for over a week now n notice nothing... After reading helldorados explanation of it, I'm gonna return it asap

 

yea i would get rid of that. the madness ecu and gfb valve is all you need

 

Would it be too much to ask how the diverter valve works and/or what it does?

 

The factory diverter sucks. It releases all boost as soon as you lift the pedal slightly, making shifts sluggish because the car needs to build boost again. the GFB diverter maintains boost in between shifts making things smoother.

 

Ahh I see now. That's some pretty serious engineering. I wonder if it can be used in conjunction with the blowoff plate I have already.

 

I just want to clarify that the diverter's main function isn't to maintain boost, it's a side benefit. It's designed to fight compressor surge and prolong the life of the turbo. A diverter is simply a BOV that recirculates back into your air intake pathways instead of venting to the atmosphere. When the throttle body closes and creates a vacuum on the intake manifold, if you didn't have something to vent off the compressed air on the intake side, it naturally tries to release pressure and go somewhere. So it starts pushing back against the turbo compressor wheel that isn't being driven as strongly by the turbine wheel on the exhaust side because exhaust gas pressure is reduced by letting off the throttle. This stresses the bearings which affects reliability and longevity of your turbo. The performance aspect is that if the air pressure wasn't vented, the turbo compressor is slowed more abruptly (rather than a natural wind down) and could even start to spin backwards, so boost is lost.

The advertised benefit of the GFB diverter is that the OE one uses plastic valve parts that don't maintain the seal as well as their all metal setup. This means your OE diverter could be leaking at higher pressures or not closing quickly and fully when you get back on the throttle. That's an issue because your turbo is trying to build air pressure, and some of it is leaking out through the diverter and not getting into the intake manifold. The GFB diverter is still driven by the OE solenoid, so it's going to open and release pressure every time the ECU commands it, but it should actuate more effectively and not develop any of the potential leakage issues that the OE could.

I think blowoff plates are a waste of money... All that does is release some of the air to atmosphere that the diverter would be recirculating to sound like one of the cool kids, lol. It negates some of the functional benefits of the diverter for the sake of sound. We're lucky in that the 1.4L uses a MAP sensor instead of MAF, so installing a blow off plate doesn't cause you to run rich like turbo cars with a MAF sensor will. So sure, you could use a blowoff plate and diverter, but why bother? Just upgrade the diverter and be done IMO. If you want a cool turbo sound, convert your wastegate to port to open dumps so when you go WOT, it's pure unmuffled, engine thrash. Sometimes a CAI will amplify the turbo spooling sound too. ;-)

 

I just installed an Injen intake made for a Dart. The sound is so loud!

 

Were there any fitment issues with the CAI? I wasn't sure if the routing of the intake pipe would work because of differences in the engine bay, but everything else should be the same. I'm hoping that K&N releases a cone filter CAI kit because I've had good results with their setups on multiple vehicles in the past.

 

yea i had to cut a bracket off the intake. other than that it was pretty simple. you need a vacuum tee and some hose thats it

 

I installed the GFB diverter yesterday, together with the Madness Maxpower ECU... after I installed the diverter the "Service Engine" light came on. I read somewhere a while back that it will go off after a few days... Can anybody who has the diverter installed confirm that?? Thanks!!

 

Hi there, would you mind sending me more details on how u ve made to fit that CAI system, im very much considering putting together for my 1.4T too, and maybe a couple pics ; very much appreciated

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Hey man - did that service engine light ever go off? I'm about to install my DV+ and wanted to know what I'm up against.


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I have had the GFB DV+ on for a few weeks now. I do not have the Madness ECU (saving for that one) and i put in a K&N filter (no MAF sensor to foul up!). Never had the service engine light come on.

I put the GFB Diverter on because I have a deeply ingrained distrust of plasticky European diverter valves (thank you Audi!). Don't expect anything magical with it. The biggest benefit I have noticed is when I have a lot of supplies for my restaurant in the Jeep (I pick up 300-400lbs of stuff a day). Getting into fast moving Boston traffic is a lot smoother with the GFB than before. The power delivery just feels less lumpy once the turbo spins up. ohh and it does nothing for the fiddly first to second shift.

Maybe try hooking up a code reader and see what pops up? and double check the electrical plug for the solenoid to make sure that is all the way in too.