Wheel and tire size ? General observations

Discussion in 'Renegade Wheels & Tires' started by Zulu__Dawn, Jan 31, 2019.

  1. Zulu__Dawn

    Zulu__Dawn New Member

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    Hey everyone, new here. Don't even have my Renegade yet. Hope to get a 2019 when they hit the market...I think in October...UGGGG 9 more months!!! I want one of those kind of Army Green looking ones...hope 2019 they have this color!!!!

    Quick question, I have noticed that most folks who do wheel and tire swaps on their Renegades (along with lifts), it seems as though everyone tries to keep the tire tucked up under the fender well. Or at the most they stick out just even with the fenders.

    I was wondering why? Is this just personal preference for aesthetics? On Wranglers it seems everyone wants to get their big tires sticking out as far as possible and put as small of fender on as they can get away with.

    Does the car look stupid or dorky with a bit of tire sticking out? Like 1-2 inches? I was thinking of trying to stick a 29" x 10 or even a 30" x 11" on this thing (after a lift).

    2nd question. I also noticed that it seems that people put spacers behind the wheel. I would assume so that the bigger/wider tires don't rub the inner fender well or crash into the strut springs. So why not just purchase a wheel with a deeper/additional 1" offset/backspacing and get the 1 inch+ clearance on the wheel purchase? Why a spacer...is it to keep the face of the wheel surface more flush with the side wall? So it is an aesthetics thing again...deeper dish rims look dorky? Or is there a real 4x4 rock crawling reason behind this?

    Lets start here...juts trying to figure out if it is a mechanical limitation thing or just person appeal type thing?


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    Zulu__Dawn New Member

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    Ok.

    Did some more research and reading up on wheel and tire combos and the impact a wheel/tire size has on a vehicles abilities (road and off-road). Found a great article from 2015. I sort of knew this stuff from when I owned my own CJ5 with 36" Super Swampers.

    https://jalopnik.com/crawl-ratios-a...78417#f1k6zh3sucwa2vdimgy7pcnhr.37oldc8ci8cqr

    So pretty much I think it has to do with "force applied" issues. The little 2.4 with 180 Tq I think would struggle greatly with 33's on it, without some sort of gear change. So I can see why folks are staying with 29" - 30" tall tires and widths at about 8-10.

    I would like to stuff 33's on mine at 11" wide (with a lift and some fender work). So far I haven't seen a picture of a Renegade or a Compass with 33's and now I think I know why.

    Moderators, I think I answered my own questions with some research so this thread can be closed. Sorry to bother.

    Zulu
     
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    Zulu__Dawn New Member

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    Found 1 in Brazil,

    32's to 33's i think

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    As far as having tires that stick way out from the fenders, we start to have a geometry problem. The front tires have to turn left and right so a wider tire has a wider "sweep." The further the outer edge is from the pivot point, the more clearance we need in front of and behind the tire. This problem is amplified by the wheel spacers. The spacers are used more often than wheels with different offsets for two reasons: spacers are cheaper, and our lug pattern is unique making wheels hard to find.

    The largest wheel/tire combo I've see (in pictures) is the AVID promo vehicle with 32" tires. Check out this thread:
    https://www.toasterjeep.com/index.p...ssentials-meet-the-prerunner.2558/#post-20833
     
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    I would bet that is either a photoshop OR a Renegade body on a wrangler frame or another solid axle 4x4.
     
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    Yeah I agree, I figured as much when I found it...just doesn't look quite right. Since I don't have my own Renegade yet I am just pipe dreaming and cant really comment from experience. The 2019 Trailhawks have to hit the dealer lots very soon...got to be only a couple more weeks.

    Also by looking at some of 2018 Renegades on the street, one of the HUGE limiting factors of getting 33"s on this thing is the fact that the rear wheel arch is made up partially with the rear door structure. So once you go BIG you have to start to trim and cut on the rear door and then most likely the "shut face" of the rear door. From what i have seen of the rear door jam this is NOT an easy job...would take some finesse and welding and totally restructuring of that rear jam area.

    Can a person on here with a 2018 pull a measurement across the wheel arch and let me know what the opening distance is?

    The front looks easy to sawzal and to build a new arch/flare...but the back...yuk

    Zulu
     
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